Michael Lerner in conversation with Louis Klein (EUSG) and Karima Kadaoui (Tamkeen Community Foundation) Starting from the premise, advanced by the International Federation for Systems Research (IFSR) and the European School of Governance (EUSG), that at the core of our current polycrisis lies a crisis in governance, this dialogue seeks to explore the intricate relationship between governance systems and the multifaceted crises we face to